Thursday, September 30, 2021

Revisiting 5 Year Win Streak for Cincinnati Football Over Rutgers

  Cincinnati vs Rutgers football history - Down The Drive

I attended the University of Cincinnati from 2006-2011. Over that 5 year span, the Cincinnati Bearcats football team beat Rutgers Scarlet Knights in all 5 meetings, with each one carrying a varying degree of significance and entertainment.

2006 - STORM THE FIELD

7th ranked, unbeaten Rutgers lost to Cincinnati 30-11.

https://twitter.com/GoBEARCATS/status/1329099596576993283

Rutgers entered the game ranked #7 in the polls and 9-0 overall. For the first time in school history, they had Big East title and even BCS bowl game aspirations.

The win helped Cincinnati improve to 6-5, to reach bowl eligible for the second time in three years under coach Mark Dantonio. I’ll never forget the amazing experience of rushing the field (and losing my shoe). This was the beginning of the rise of Cincinnati football. After this season, Brian Kelly would take over as coach and Big East championships, 10 win seasons and BCS bowl games would follow.

Two memorable plays stand out for Cincinnati

  • CB Deangelo Smith returned an interception 84 yards for a touchdown in the second quarter
  • TE Brent Celek rumbled for an 83 yard touchdown in the third quarter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mC1ubozhEeQ

2007 - Mauk Chop

#20 Cincy wins @ #21 Rutgers

It should seem obvious, but this was the first time ever these teams faced off with both ranked in the top 25. Rutgers was actually ranked 10th a week prior, but fell due to a loss to Maryland.

Rutgers QB Mike Teel was picked off 3 times, including once by LB Ryan Manalac in the final minute of the game to seal the win.

My only memories of this game was that I didn’t come across a single polite person in all of Piscataway, NJ.

Cincinnati QB Ben Mauk made a gesture towards the Rutgers sideline mocking their famous “keep chopping wood” gimmick, doing his own “Mauk chop”.

2008 - PUNT!

Cincinnati won a snooze fest 13-10. Chazz Anderson started at QB for UC, in place of an injured Tony Pike. There were a total of 19 punts (10 for Rutgers, 9 for Cincinnati).

The win put Cincinnati at 5-1, while Rutgers was 1-5. The Bearcats would go on to win the Big East for the first time and play in the Orange Bowl.

This was a rough game - it was Homecoming, it was beautiful weather and I have zero feelings or real memories about this game.

2009 - Labor Day Beatdown

Cincinnati opened the 2009 season with a beatdown in New Jersey. After being tied 7-7 after the first quarter, Cincinnati led 31-7 at halftime and won the game 47-15.

Bearcats finished the regular season 12-0, winning back-to-back Big East titles.

This game is a top 5 sports moment in my life. The result wasn’t surprising but the way it all happened was quite unexpected. Week 1 on Labor Day, high expectations for both programs. Rutgers rolled out a renovated stadium which was loud and sold out. Students were as loud and obnoxious as ever. Fans were mean and nasty. But, it was great!

My favorite memory was a fan coming up to me in the stands, unprovoked, using inappropriate language towards Brian Kelly, to which, I simply shrugged and said “scoreboard”.

2010 - Bet the Over

Cincinnati won 69-38.

This was the first year of the Butch Jones tenure and the Bearcats entered the game 3-6. There really is no significance - this was just a wild, crazy game.The way this team played all year, this score was so unexpected but it was a fun and pleasant offensive outburst in what would be my last time seeing this rivalry first hand at Nippert Stadium, and ultimately the last time the Bearcats would win at home against Rutgers.

RB Isaiah Pead ran for 213 yards and 4 TDs and also caught a TD.

Why Cincinnati vs Notre Dame is Personal to Me

 


On Saturday October 2nd, the Cincinnati Bearcats take on Notre Dame Fighting Irish in South Bend, Indiana in a matchup between top 10 college football teams. When this game was announced in April 2019, who knew it would have so much meaning to it.

This is the biggest game in Cincinnati football history.

Bearcats have played in 3 BCS/NY6 bowl games - 2008 Orange Bowl vs Virginia Tech, 2009 Sugar Bowl vs Florida, 2020 Peach Bowl vs Georgia.

While those games were huge milestones for Cincinnati and were exciting and meaningful, the stakes weren't THIS high.

Had they won either of their BCS bowls, it would have been an exciting victory that would not have moved the needle in the landscape of college football or, at the time, the Big East. By the way, the coach of Cincinnati during those 2 BCS bowls was current Notre Dame coach Brian Kelly… (more below).

If Cincinnati beat Georgia last January, they would have finished 10-0, completing a perfect season during a COVID year where their accomplishments would have been brushed aside in comparison to the big guys like Alabama, Ohio State, and Clemson.

They have played in the AAC Championship Game each of the last two years (2019 loss to Memphis, 2020 win over Tulsa).

In the last 15 years, Cincinnati has been blown out by Ohio State (twice), Michigan, Florida. They are 1-32 all-time on the road vs top 15 teams. The 1 win was the 2009 victory over #14 Pittsburgh. A historic moment for UC football, as they completed a 12-0 season, but in the context of history, they didn't get to the BCS Championship Game and they didn't beat Florida in the Sugar Bowl.

I would also say the 2018 regular season game vs UCF was a high stakes game because the Knights were riding high with their historic win streak (23 wins in a row), College Gameday was in Orlando and this game was featured on ABC Primetime. A win would have vaulted Cincinnati into NY6 contention. But ultimately, that moment wouldn't come until the following year.


If Cincinnati beats Notre Dame on October 2nd, everything about the 2021 season changes. It's a victory that moves the needle in a way those previously noted games never would have dreamed of.

Notre Dame falls out of playoff contention with a loss. Even if they were to run the table afterwards, the lack of a conference championship game would hurt them. Plus, no team has ever made playoffs with a loss to a G5 team during that regular season.

Cincinnati enters a legitimate conversation about the playoffs, something no G5 team has really done. With respect to UCF, right or wrong, they never seriously considered. But with the AAC more respectable now than ever, and OOC wins over Notre Dame and Indiana, the committee would have to consider the Bearcats IF chaos were to run through the top of the rankings (as it has over the past month - bye Clemson).

Notre Dame is one of the most notable and historic schools in college football. Like the Lakers and Cowboys, they are a powerhouse program with a national following that includes a love/hate relationship with fans. People are either hardcore dedicated fans of ND or they loathe the Fighting Irish. There is no in-between. You could argue the America's Team moniker applies to Notre Dame. Look at TV ratings, online apparel sales. They truly move the needle in ways no one else does.

A Cincinnati win would snap Notre Dame's 24-game home winning streak, the second longest in the nation.

A Cincinnati win over Notre Dame, would mean PAYBACK!


"Cincy committed to Kelly"

On December 6th, 2009 I sat in Fifth Third Arena, exhausted and hungover waving a red towel waiting for the official BCS announcement show.

The day before, my friends and I drove out to Pittsburgh to sit in a freezing cold snowy game, where Cincinnati trailed 31-10, only to win 45-44 in the best game ever. That secured the Big East Championship as Cincinnati finished the regular season 12-0. That was the last game Brian Kelly ever coached for Cincinnati.

Let's go back a little further now.

2006 was my freshman year of college. On November 18, 2006, the Bearcats got a historic victory over 7th ranked Rutgers. A few weeks later, head coach Mark Dantonio, left Cincinnati for Michigan State.

He was replaced by Brian Kelly, a young head coach at Central Michigan who was highly regarded in coaching circles. Kelly hadn't been at the FBS level long, but this felt like the right step for him at the right time. He was at Grand Valley State from 1987-2003 (head coach from 1991-2003), before making the leap to Central Michigan where he coached 3 seasons and went 19-16.

His first season, in 2007, Cincinnati went 10-3, showing some significant progress at a place where winning wasn't a thing of the past. 6-7 games max was the ceiling at Cincinnati.

And then, Kelly blew the doors off of the ceiling.

Bearcats won back-to-back Big East championships in 2008 and 2009, overtaking the previously dominant Louisville and West Virginia. In 2009, they went 12-0, before losing the Sugar Bowl to Urban Meyer, Tim Tebow and the Gators.

Kelly didn't coach in that game. He left Cincinnati for Notre Dame shortly after the regular season was completed. 

That takes me back to that Sunday after Pittsburgh in December 2009.

Many fans attended a watch party at Fifth Third Arena to listen to the official bowl announcement. The school distributed red towels that read "Cincy committed to Kelly". Kelly was a HOT commodity at the time, and Notre Dame had fired Charlie Weis. Kelly seemed like the prime target.

How I recall it? 4 days after the BCS announcement (5 days after the epic win over Pitt), the school held their annual football banquet, celebrating the players' success and accomplishments.

That night (December 10th, 2009), Kelly no-showed the banquet and reports from ESPN began trickling in that Kelly was accepting the job. There was no good bye message, no thank yous, nothing. He just disappeared and the next morning was wearing green in South Bend.

Now personally for me and many others, the way it all went down left a bitter taste. However, if we're being honest, it's hard to get too upset about a guy leaving Cincinnati for Notre Dame. The Fighting Irish, in spite of the University's challenges, is a dream job for most coaches.

The truth is, Kelly was never long for Cincinnati. While he didn't lay the initial foundation (that was Rick Minter and Dantonio), Kelly proved you can have success at Cincinnati and really helped put the school on the map and set the stage for the position they are in today.

Fans do owe him thanks. But the school owes him payback.


More payback

"Notre Dame is a dream job for most coaches" and I get why you would leave Cincinnati for Notre Dame.

Notre Dame defensive coordinator Marcus Freeman knows all about Cincinnati's defense. He had a hand in recruiting almost all of these guys, after coaching at UC from 2016-2020. Freeman is a former linebacker at Ohio State and his defensive coordinator was Luke Fickell.

Along with Freeman, defensive backs coach Mike Mickens also departed for Notre Dame after the 2020 season. Mickens felt he'd be better positioned for a defensive coordinator job in the future by working at Notre Dame.

He was an All-American cornerback on the Kelly coached Bearcats teams and was drafted in the 5th round by my favorite Dallas Cowboys. So this one certainly hurts.

Guys like Sauce Gardner and Coby Bryant will certainly play with a little extra chip on their shoulder with both their previous position coach and coordinator on the other side.


More Revenge?

Cincinnati offensive coordinator Mike Denbrock has been with Fickell since 2017. Denbrock was Kelly's OC and OL coach from ___

Cincinnati WR Michael Young leads the team....

Two more for fun. Gunner Kiel quarterback'd the Bearcats for ___

Demitrius Jones

Wednesday, September 29, 2021

Inside Lebron James NBA Finals Record

 


Lebron James is not now, nor will he ever be the NBA’s all-time “GOAT”. But in his own way, James is without question one of the best all-time. Whether it’s his on court performance, value to his teams, or what he has done outside of basketball, James truly is incredible.

In 2020, Lebron was crowned NBA champion for the 4th time in his career, as he helped lead the Lakers to the franchise’s 17th championship and first since 2010.

The Lebron greatness conversation always includes his Finals record (3-6). But to me, the most important number is 10. Lebron has played in the NBA Finals in 10 out of 18 seasons.

While 6 losses is nothing to brag about, it’s important to view them in the proper context.

2007 – Worst team ever

Cavs got swept by Tim Duncan and the Spurs. Drew Gooden (12.8 ppg) was the Cavs second leading scorer in the Finals. The lineup included James, Gooden, Sasha Pavlovic, Zydrunas Ilgauskas, and Daniel Gibson.

This might legitimately be the worst NBA Finals team of all-time. But to get there, Lebron single-handily beat a legendary Pistons team in the Eastern Conference Finals.

2011 – No excuse

In James’ first year in Miami, the Heat lost to the Mavs. As great and well put-together as that Dallas team was, there is no excuse for this loss. Miami had the better team and this is the one Finals loss that stands out as inexcusable.

2014 – Great Spurs

This Spurs team was great, going 62-20. The 62 wins were the most during any of their 5 championship seasons. They beat the Heat in just 5 games. Kawhi Leonard got his first ring and Tim Duncan, Tony Parker, and Manu Ginobili got their last ones.

2015 – No Kyrie Irving or Kevin Love

Do you need proof of Lebron’s greatness? Here it is.

Warriors won this series in 6 games, even though Kyrie Irving and Kevin Love were both out due to injuries. Lebron was stuck with Timofey Mozgov, the team’s second leading scorer (14.0 ppg), Tristan Thompson, Iman Shumpert, and Matthew Dellavedova, who was arguably the team’s second best player throughout the Finals.

2017 and 2018 – Warriors Super Team

2017 was the Warriors first year with Kevin Durant and coming off the blown 3-1 lead, no one ever had a chance of beating them. 

In 2018, Cavs traded Kyrie Irving before the season for a damaged Isaiah Thomas and returned to the Finals with a new group that included George Hill, Jordan Clarkson, Larry Nance Jr, and Rodney Hood, plus Love and Smith.


I’m not making excuses for James, but he is not the best player ever – Michael Jordan is and forever will be. But there’s a huge difference between Jordan and James. Jordan went 6-0 in the Finals against 6 teams inferior to his. James lost 6 Finals, 5 of which to teams superior to his.

On the other end of the spectrum, his four championships have all come under extraordinary circumstances.

2012 – lockout-shortened season

2012 was Lebron’s first championship, in his second season in Miami. Following the Heat’s 2011 loss to the Mavericks, the NBA experienced a lockout between players and owners. As a result, the season was delayed and didn’t start until Christmas Day and teams only played 50 regular season games.

But give the Heat credit for beating a Thunder team that had Kevin Durant, Russell Westbrook, James Harden, and Serge Ibaka.

2013 – Ray Allen bailout

Again, give the Heat credit for beating an amazing Spurs team. Miami trailed the series 3-2 as they returned home for Game 6. Ray Allen, along with Chris Bosh, bailed out the Heat and literally saved the season.

After that, the Heat would go on to win Game 7, securing back-to-back championships.

2016 – 3-1 comeback

There is a lot to unpack here. The 2016 Warriors went an NBA-record 73-9 and led the Cavs 3-1 through 4 games of the series. In game 4, Draymond Green’s actions earned him a one-game suspension. Cavs won game 5, to give them some life in the series. They would win games 6 and 7 and complete the historic comeback. It was the Cavs’ first ever NBA title and the city of Cleveland’s first championship since the 1964 Browns’ NFL Championship (pre-NFL/AFL merger).

2020 – The Bubble

You know the story – NBA season was paused in March due to worldwide spread of coronavirus. The season resumed in July, inside a “bubble” environment. This meant no fans, no families. Just 100% basketball, all the time. Lakers ended their 7 year playoff drought and won their first playoff series since 2012. Lebron and Anthony Davis carried the Lakers past Blazers, Rockets, Nuggets, and Heat to win his 4th title.

Success of QB #12 in the Super Bowl

 

Tom Brady is the greatest QB of all-time. Playing in 10 out of 55 Super Bowls is amazing.

But did you know, that the legacy of QB #12 goes back a long way.

Brady isn't the only legendary #12 QB and he isn't the only one with multiple Super Bowls.

28 of 55 Super Bowls have featured QB #12

Full list:

QBAppearancesRecord
Tom Brady 10 7-3
Terry Bradshaw4 4-0
Roger Staubach4 2-2
Jim Kelly4 0-4
Bob Griese3 2-1
Ken Stabler1 1-0
Aaron Rodgers1 1-0
Joe Namath1 1-0
Rich Gannon 1 0-1
Stan Humphries1 0-1
Chris Chandler1 0-1

More on QB #12

#12 QB is 15-10 all-time in the 25 Super Bowls that featured only one #12 QB.

3 Super Bowls saw 12 vs 12. Bradshaw and Steelers twice beat Staubach and Cowboys. And Staubach's Cowboys beat Griese's Dolphins.

5 #12 QBs have won 10 Super Bowl MVPs - Brady (5), Rodgers, Bradshaw (2), Staubach, Namath.

Decade of NBA Draft Disasters

 


MikeDropSports summarizes some of the worst NBA draft decisions that teams have made over the last 10 years. Some of these decisions were knowingly bad at the time and some are just hindsight bad.

Considerations:

  • Excluded guys like Kawhi, Giannis, Jokic who "everyone" missed on and grouped them into one bucket near the bottom
  • Tried to keep the mistake within 2-3 picks and looked for same/similar positions (of course, some cases are unavoidable)

Atlanta Hawks:

  • 2014 - Adreian Payne (#15) over Jusef Nurkic (#16)

Boston Celtics:

  • 2014 - James Young (#17) over Gary Harris (#19)

Brooklyn Nets:

  • Traded draft picks that became - Damian Lillard, Draymond Green, Jaylen Brown, Jasyon Tatum, Colin Sexton
  • 2015 - PF Chris Mcullough (#29) over PF Montrezl Harrell (#31)

Chicago Bulls:

  • 2014 - Drafted and traded Jusef Nurkic (#16) and Gary Harris (#19) to Nuggets for Doug McDermott (#11) and Anthony Randolph

Charlotte Hornets:

  • 2018 - Drafted Shai Gilgeous-Alexander (#11) but immediately traded him to Clippers for Miles Bridges (#12)
  • 2015 - Frank Kaminsky (#9) over Justice Winslow (#10), Myles Turner (#11), Devin Booker (#13)
  • 2017 - SG Malik Monk (#11) over SG Donovan Mitchell (#13), Bam Adebayo (#14)
  • 2014 - Noah Vonleh (#9) over Dario Saric (#12), Zach LaVine (#13), TJ Warren (#14)
  • 2012 - Michael Kidd-Gilchrist (#2) over Bradley Beal (#3). Context - Bobcats went 7-59 the year prior, but New Orleans won the lottery and drafted Anthony Davis.

Cleveland Cavaliers:

  • 2013 - Anthony Bennett (#1) over literally anyone else (Victor Oladipo was #2)
  • 2013 - Sergey Karasev (#19) over Tony Snell (#20)
  • 2012 - Dion Waiters (#4) over Harrison Barnes (#7), Terrence Ross (#8)

Dallas Mavericks:

  • 2017 - Dennis Smith Jr (#9) over Donovan Mitchell (#13) and Bam Adebayo (#14)

Denver Nuggets:

  • 2017 - Drafted Donovan Mitchell (#13) and traded him to Jazz for Trey Lyles and Tyler Lydon (#24)
  • 2017 - PF Tyler Lydon (#24, via trade) over PF Kyle Kuzma (#27)
  • 2013 - Drafted Rudy Gobert (#27) but traded him to Jazz for nothing
  • 2012 - SF Quincy Miller (#38 over SF Khris Middleton (#39)

Detroit Pistons:

  • 2017 - Luke Kennard (#12) over Donovan Mitchell (#13)
  • 2016 - Henry Ellenson (#18) over Caris LaVert (#20)
  • 2015 - Stanley Johnson (#8) over Justice Winslow (#10), Myles Turner (#11), Devin Booker (#13)
  • 2013 - Kentavious Caldwell-Pope (#8) over CJ McCollum (#10)
  • 2011 - Brandon Knight (#8) over Kemba Walker (#9)

Golden State Warriors:

  • 2010 - Ekpe Udoh (#6) over Greg Monroe (#7)

Indiana Pacers:

  • 2017 - TJ Leaf (#18) over John Collins (#19)
  • 2011 - Drafted Kawhi Leonard and traded him immediately to Spurs for George Hill

Los Angeles Clippers:

  • 2018 - Jerome Robinson (#13) over Michael Porter Jr (#14)
  • 2016 - Brice Johnson (#25) over Pascal Siakam (#27)
  • 2011 - Notable trade - February 2011, Clippers traded Baron Davis and a first round pick to Cleveland. That pick won the lottery, and Cavs drafted Kyrie Irving #1 with LAC pick.
  • 2010 - Al Farooq Aminu (#8) over Gordon Hayward (#9), Paul George (#10)

Los Angeles Lakers:

  • 2017 - Lonzo Ball (#2) over Jayson Tatum (#3), De'Aaron Fox (#5)

Memphis Grizzlies:

  • 2016 - PG Wade Baldwin (#17) over Caris LaVert (#20), PG Dejounte Murray (#29)
  • 2016 - Rade Zagorac (#35, via trade) over Malcolm Brogdon (#36)
  • 2015 - Jarrell Martin (#25) over Larry Nance Jr (#27)
  • 2014 - SG Jordan Adams (#22) over SG Rodney Hood (#23)

Milwaukee Bucks:

  • 2017 - DJ Wilson (#17) over John Collins (#19)
  • 2016 - Thon Maker (#10) over Domantas Sabonis (#11)
  • 2014 - Jabari Parker (#2) over Joel Embiid (#3)

Minnesota Timberwolves:

  • 2017 - Justin Patton (#16, via trade) over John Collins (#19), C Jarrett Allen (#22)
  • 2016 - Kris Dunn (#4) over Buddy Hield (#5) and Jamal Murray (#6)
  • 2013 - Trey Burke (#9) over CJ McCollum (#10)
  • 2013 - Drafted Andre Roberson (#26) and traded him away for nothing
  • 2011 - Derrick Williams (#2) over Enes Kanter (#3), Tristan Thompson (#4)
  • 2010 - Wesley Johnson (#4) over DeMarcus Cousins (#5)

New Orleans Pelicans

Pelicans drafting since 2012 - a lot of trades!

New York Knicks:

  • 2018 - Kevin Knox (#9) over Mikal Bridges (#10), Michael Porter Jr (#14)
  • 2017 - Frank Ntilikina (#8) over Donovan Mitchell (#13)
  • 2016 - Jamal Murray drafted by Nuggets (#7) with Knicks pick acquired for Carmelo Anthony
  • 2010 - Draft SG Andy Rautins (#38) over SG Lance Stephenson (#40)

Orlando Magic:

  • 2018 - Mo Bamba (#6) over Wendell Carter Jr (#7)
  • 2017 - Jonathan Isaac (#6) over Lauri Markkanen (#7)
  • 2016 - Drafted Domantas Sabonis (#11) and traded him and Victor Oladipo to Thunder for Serge Ibaka
  • 2015 - Mario Hezonja (#5) over Myles Turner (#11), Devin Booker (#13)

Philadelphia 76ers:

  • 2018 - Drafted Mikal Bridges (#10) but traded him to Suns for Zhaire Smith (#16)
  • 2017 - Drafted Markelle Fultz #1 after trading #3 pick (Jayson Tatum) and 2019 #14 pick (Romeo Langford) to move up
  • 2016 - Furkan Korkmaz (#26) over Pascal Siakam (#27)
  • 2015 - Jahlil Okafor (#3) over Kristaps Porzingis (#4)

Phoenix Suns:

  • 2018 - Deandre Ayton (#1) over Luka Doncic (#3) and Trae Young (#5). (Note - this has worked out for all three teams, including Suns)
  • 2018 - PG Elle Okobo (#31) over PG Devonte Graham (#34)
  • 2017 - Josh Jackson (#4) over De'Aaron Fox (#5), Jonathan Isaac (#6), Lauri Markkanen (#7)
  • 2016 - Dragan Bender (#4) over Buddy Heild (#6), Jamal Murray (#7)
  • 2016 - Tyler Ulis (#34) over Malcolm Brogdon (#36)
  • 2014 - Tyler Ennis (#18) over Gary Harris (#19)
  • 2013 - Alex Len (#5) over Nerlens Noel (#6)
  • 2013 - Drafted Nemanja Nedović (#30) and traded him for Archie Goodwin (#29) over Allen Crabbe (#31)
  • 2011 - Markieff Morris (#13) over Kawhi Leonard (#15)

Portland Trail Blazers:

  • 2018 - Anfernee Simons (#24) over Landry Shamet (#26)
  • 2017 - Traded up to draft Zach Collins (#10) over Donovan Mitchell (#13) and Bam Adebayo (#14)
  • 2017 - Caleb Swanigan (#26) over Kyle Kuzma (#27)

Sacramento Kings:

  • 2018 - Marvin Bagley (#2) over Luka Doncic (#3). And if that's not bad enough, also over Jaren Jackson Jr (#4) and Trae Young (#5)
  • 2017 - Drafted De'Aaron Fox (#5), following a pick swap with 76ers, who took Jayson Tatum #3. Pick swap and 2019 #14 pick were traded along with 2015 first round pick Nik Stauskas to Philly in 2015 summer
  • 2017 - C Harry Giles (#20, via trade) over C Jarrett Allen (#22)
  • 2016 - Drafted someone named Georgios Papagiannis #13
  • 2016 - Skal Labissière (#28, via trade) over Dejounte Murray (#29)
  • 2014 - SG Nik Stauskas (#8) over SG Zach LaVine (#13)
  • 2013 - Ben McLemore (#7) over CJ McCollum (#10)
  • 2012 - Thomas Robinson (#5) over Damian Lillard (#6)
  • 2011 - Bismack Biyombo (#7) over Kemba Walker (#9) - Biyombo was part of a draft day deal, with this next guy...
  • 2011 - Drafted Jimmer Fredette (#10, via trade) over Klay Thompson (#11) and Kawhi Leonard (#15)
  • 2011 - SF Tyler Honeycutt (#35) over SF Chandler Parson (#38)

Toronto Raptors

  • 2014 - Bruno Caboclo (#20) over Clint Capela (#25)
  • 2014 - DeAndre Daniels (#37) over Spencer Dinwiddie (#38)

Utah Jazz:

  • 2015 - Trey Lyles (#12) over Devin Booker (#13)
  • 2014 - Dante Exum (#5) over Marcus Smart (#6)

Washington Wizards:

  • 2011 - Jan Vessley (#6) over Kemba Walker (#9), Klay Thompson (#11), Kawhi Leonard (#15)
  • 2011 - Chris Singleton (#18) over Tobias Harris (#19)

Everyone:

  • 2018 - Mitchell Robinson (#36)
  • 2014 - Nikola Jokic (#41) drafted in second round
  • 2014 - Spencer Dinwiddie (#38), Jerami Grant (#39) also drafted in second round
  • 2013 - Giannis (#15) to the Bucks
  • 2012 - Draymond Green (#35) and Khris Middleton (#39) both drafted in second round
  • 2011 - Kawhi Leonard #15 to Pacers
  • 2011 - Jimmy Butler drafted #30 by Bulls
  • 2011 - Isaiah Thomas (#60)

Carmelo Anthony: What Could Have Been

 


Carmelo Anthony has had a legendary career. 17 years in the NBA and counting. He is one of the greatest scorers the league has ever seen.

He spent 7.5 years with the Nuggets and was traded to the Knicks, where he played for 6.5 seasons. Over the last three years, he has played with the Thunder, Rockets, Blazers.

Unlike his 2003 draft counterparts (Lebron James, Chris Bosh, Dwayne Wade), Anthony has never experienced championship success. In fact, he has only made it to the Conference Finals round once in his career.

But what could of been is a major theme throughout his career. What if he waited to go to the Knicks? Or the Nets? What if the Pistons drafted him? Might those teams have gotten further in the playoffs and more frequently with him on board?

A look back at 5 situations that Carmelo Anthony could have found himself in throughout his career, but ultimately did not.

Carmelo Anthony has been part of a lot of exciting trios. How would you rank Melo's "big threes" throughout his career? Here's how I would.

2003 Draft - Pistons Pick #2

Everyone knows this story. The 2003 NBA Draft is famous because 4 of the top 5 picks are future Hall of Famers. Lebron James went #1 to Cavs, Carmelo Anthony went #3 to Nuggets, Chris Bosh went #4 to Raptors, Dwayne Wade #5 to Heat.

And the #2 pick belonged to the Pistons. A Pistons team who played in the Eastern Conference Finals a month before this draft. Detroit acquired this pick from the Grizzlies back in 1997 in the worst trade ever.

Pistons chose European big man Darko Milicic. Now, in their defense, Darko was highly regarded and many felt he was a great fit for the Pistons, especially considering they already had Richard Hamilton and Tayshaun Prince, who might have impacted the potential of Dwayne Wade or Carmelo Anthony.

Hamilton was coming off a season where he scored 19.7 ppg in his first year in Detroit and Detroit was high on Prince, who wound up starting 80 games in his second season in 2004.

During the early middle 2000s, the Pistons were a great team. They had great players, but no true superstar and that was by design. Prince is no Melo, but no one is Melo. Prince served an extremely valuable role for Detroit, as a defensive specialist due to his size and length. He was able to score, but with Hamilton, Chauncey Billups, and Rasheed Wallace, drafting another scorer was needed.

After losing in the Eastern Conference Finals in 2003, Pistons won the NBA Finals in 2004 and made it back in 2005, losing in 7 games to the Spurs. They made the Eastern Conference Finals the next three years (losing each time).

This team fit together perfectly and their strength was their chemistry. There's no guarantee Melo would have fit in or led to any more success than they already had.

Trade to the Nets in 2011

Knicks acquired Carmelo in February 2011 and traded a fortune to get him. Everyone thought the Knicks should wait until July 2011 when he became a free agent, but Melo was insistent on getting out of Denver asap and also claimed that he would have waived his no-trade clause to go to the Nets at the time, hence the pressure on the Knicks to offer a fortune.

Nets offer included Derrick Favors, Devin Harris, some others and four first round picks to Denver. Favors was the #3 pick in the 2010 Draft and Harris had started all 54 games, averaging 15.2 ppg and 7.1 apg.

When the Nuggets turned down the Nets, Melo would be traded to the Knicks and days later the Nets offered a similar package (same players, less draft picks) to the Utah Jazz for Deron Williams. That offseason, they acquired Joe Johnson.

Anthony's Knicks went 1-3 in playoff series, while the Nets also went 1-3 in playoff series during that same time. With Anthony on board, would the Nets have traded all of those future draft picks to the Celtics for Kevin Garnett and Paul Pierce in 2013?

Knicks Free Agency in 2011

What if Melo had just been patient and waited a few more months. Nuggets made the playoffs in 2011, and lost 4-1 in first round to Thunder. Knicks, meanwhile, got swept with Anthony.

Had Melo been able to tough it out he could have signed outright as a free agent, joining a team with a nice young core of Danilo Gallinari and Wilson Chandler, paired with PG Raymond Felton and, of course, All Star forward Amare Stoudemire. Anthony and Stoudemire were surrounded Iman Shumpert, Landry Fields, Steve Novak. Decent players, but having Gallinari would have been a major game-changed for the Knicks, and for Melo.

During the summer of 2011, they would sign Tyson Chandler as a free agent. But imagine a small ball lineup (ahead of it's time) of Felton, Shumpert/Fields, Anthony, Gallinari (stretch four), and Stoudemire with Wilson Chandler off the bench too.

In 2013, the Knicks had the second best record in the East and lost in the second round. Would this team have advanced further? Could they have reasonably competed with Lebron's Heat?

Bulls Free Agency 2014

This was Melo's first and only real free agency. He signed a max extension with the Nuggets in 2006, and upon arriving in NY, re-signed with the Knicks in 2011.

His contract was up after the 2013-14 season and the Knicks were coming off a non-playoffs season (their first in four years). They fired coach Mike Woodson and hired Phil Jackson as new Team President.

Melo seriously considered the Bulls, who were by far the best option for him at the time. Former MVP Derrick Rose was coming off a torn meniscus, Jimmy Butler averaged 13 ppg in his third season, Joakim Noah averaged 12.6 ppg and 11.7 rpg and was named Defensive Player of the Year, and they had reliable vets like Luol Deng and Taj Gibson.

There were reports that Anthony verbally committed to the Bulls, only to later renege and stay with the Knicks.

In 2014-15. the Knicks won 17 games, compiling the worst record in the NBA under first year coach Derek Fisher. The Bulls won 50 games, but lost in the second round to eventual Eastern Conference Champions, the Cavs.

The 2015-16 season was also a disaster for the Knicks. In 2016, they signed Joakim Noah, 31 years old, coming off of just 29 games played and traded for Derrick Rose, who had some of his worst career numbers and was really a shell of himself due to injuries. So Melo finally got to play with those Bulls. And after re-signing with the Knicks in 2014, never made the playoffs again (in NY).

Bulls made the Eastern Conference Finals one time (2011) in the post Michael Jordan era. Could Melo have been the missing piece to lead them with Rose, Noah, and Butler?

Trade to Blazers in 2017

Carmelo Anthony just finished his second season with the Blazers, where he averaged a career-worst 14.3 ppg , mostly coming off the bench. The Blazers pursued Anthony for years, most notably back in 2017 when the Knicks were looking to trade him. But ultimately, Anthony had a no-trade clause in his contract, giving him the flexibility to force the Knicks hand, who traded him to the Thunder.

He fit in relatively well with the Blazers, but what if the 33 year old who was hungrier and in better shape four years ago, joined a team that finished third in the West in both 2018 and 2019?

Blazers made the Western Conference Finals in 2019, before being swept by the Warriors. I'm not saying Anthony would have made that big of a difference, but him getting a full season with Damian Lillard and CJ McCollum, at a time when he was coming off of a 22 ppg season, might have made Portland even more dangerous.

Instead, they got Anthony coming off a season where he played 10 games and then was sent home and then signed a few weeks into the 2019 season, missing the opportunity to gel with these guys during the offseason and training camp.

MikeDrop: Julian Edelman is Not a Hall of Famer


Recently retired wide receiver Julian Edelman is a legend. This is a guy who played quarterback in college at Kent State and was drafted by the Patriots in the 7th round of the 2009 Draft.

In typical Bill Belichick/Tom Brady/Patriots fashion, Edelman evolved into a GREAT football player.

However, not all great football players and not all legends are Hall of Fame worthy.

Julian Edelman and the Hall of Fame has been a hot take conversation for the last couple of years, ever since Edelman won Super Bowl LIII MVP in 2019. The conversation has really heated up since he announced his retirement.

I am here to drop the mic on why Edelman is NOT a Hall of Famer.

Super Bowl MVP Means Nothing

It's true. Remember Bucs safety Dexter Jackson? Seahawks LB Malcolm Smith? Those guys quickly became footnotes after their MVP award wins. Is Steelers WR Santonio Holmes Hall of Fame worthy? (more on him below)

Typically, the MVP goes to the quarterback (except in a few rare cases like the above). Super Bowl MVP is not criteria for Hall of Fame, especially in this case. Edelman caught 10 passes for 141 yards, which was nearly half of Brady's production. He didn't score a touchdown in he lowest scoring Super Bowl ever (13-3 final score).

How much weight does an MVP award really carry if it goes to a touchdown-less offensive player, whose team only scored 13 points?

Historically great in postseason doesn't matter

There is zero argument that Edelman is one of the greatest postseason receivers (maybe players) in NFL history. He is second all-time in receiving yards and receptions (behind only Jerry Rice). If he only played in the playoffs, he probably would be a Hall of Famer. But if we're judging him solely on his playoff greatness, why aren't we putting Joe Flacco on a similar pedestal?

Flacco had the greatest postseason run of a QB ever in 2012, throwing 11 touchdowns and 0 interceptions en route to 4 wins including the Super Bowl in 2013. Overall, Flacco is ranked 17th on the all-time playoffs passing yards list, putting him ahead of Hall of Famers Roger Staubach, Warren Moon, Ken Stabler, Otto Graham, among others. His 25 total touchdown passes ranks 12th, right behind John Elway and right above Staubach, Troy Aikman, Jim Kelly, and Steve Young. Is Joe Flacco a Hall of Famer based on his postseason resume?

Flacco is not a Hall of Famer because his regular season numbers are good, not special. Just like Edelman.

Edelman vs Hall of Famers

Edelman has 36 regular season touchdown receptions, plus 5 in the postseason, giving him 41 career touchdowns.

For context, here are the regular season touchdown receptions totals of the last 10 wide receivers inducted into the Hall of Fame:

  • Isaac Bruce - 91
  • Harold Carmichael - 79
  • Randy Moss - 156
  • Terrell Owens - 153
  • Marvin Harrison - 128
  • Tim Brown - 100
  • Andre Reed - 87
  • Cris Carter - 130
  • Jerry Rice - 197
  • Art Monk - 68

The most comparable current Hall of Famer to Edelman is Lynn Swann. Swann has the fewest touchdown receptions of any wide receiver in the Hall of Fame - 51 in the regular season, plus another 9 in the playoffs. It's worth noting that like Edelman, Swann won Super Bowl MVP, but his numbers were a bit more exciting (4 catches, 161 yards, TD). Swann is a 4x Super Bowl Champion with the Steelers.

Edelman vs Mediocre

To repeat, Edelman has 36 touchdowns and including the playoffs he has 41. That’s three less than Dwayne Bowe has in his regular season career. Dwayne Bowe!!! Remember him? Hard to justify a Hall of Fame case for someone with less touchdowns than Dwayne Bowe. Former Saints WR Lance Moore also has 44 career touchdowns catches.

Other WRs with 36 TDs include Kenny Stills and Brandon Lloyd. Former Cowboys WR Miles Austin has 37 career TD receptions.

I mentioned Santonio Holmes earlier, who is comparable to Edelman in that he also has a Super Bowl MVP. The difference between their MVPs is Holmes' was earned, with 131 yards and the game winning touchdown in the final minute. Holmes, like Edelman, has 36 career touchdowns.


Julian EdelmanSantonio Holmes
Games137112
Receptions620389
Yards6,8226,030
Yards per catch11.015.5
TDs3636
Playoff TDs (games)5 (19)5 (5)

Verdict - Not a Hall of Famer

I love Edelman as a player. I think he is outstanding and has played a huge role in 3 Super Bowl wins for the Patriots. But not all great players can be Hall of Famers. The numbers have to justify it and when you compare Edelman to others, he just doesn't have it.